The founder of Tesla, SpaceX, Neuralink, and The Boring Company, is speaking about his time management skills, Artificial Intelligence, and his new company Neuralink that could take human cognitive abilities to the next level
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Elon Reeve Musk FRS is a business magnate and investor. He holds South African, Canadian, and U.S. citizenship and is the founder, CEO, and lead designer of SpaceX; co-founder, CEO, and product architect of Tesla, Inc.; co-founder and CEO of Neuralink; and co-founder of PayPal. Recently Joe Rogan had a one in a lifetime interview on his show — The Joe Rogan Experience #1169. Elon Musk is a business magnet, investor and engineer:

PodcastNotes.org is reporting highlights from this interview: Elon Musk (@elonmusk) is perhaps the most requested guest of all time, He is the founder of Tesla, SpaceX, Neuralink, and The Boring Company

THE BORING COMPANY

  • Elon has a “hobby company” called The Boring Company
    • It started a joke, and then they decided to make it real, and dig a tunnel under LA as a traffic fix
      • Elon has lived in LA for 16 years and the traffic has always been horrible
      • So maybe the tunnel will help – “Maybe it will be successful, maybe it won’t”
      • They’ve dug about a mile so far
      • This tunnel will actually be very safe during an earthquake
        • Earthquakes are essentially a surface thing – like waves on an ocean
        • The tunnel is constructed with “interlocking segments with double seals – like a snake exoskeleton”
          • Even when the ground moves, the tunnel will shift with the ground, like an underground snake.
      • Elon plans to build multiple tunnel levels – “You can have 100 levels of tunnel, no problem”
        • “You can go further down with tunnels, than you can go up with buildings. You can go 10,000 feet down if you want.”
    • The Boring Company originally old sold hats
    • They then started selling flamethrowers
      • They made 20,000 of them, and they sold out in 4 days – no more will be made
      • Each was $500
      • It’s actually just a roofing torch with an air rifle cover – so it’s technically not a real flamethrower
        • To solve shipping problems, they labeled shipping boxes as “Not a Flamethrower”
  • When Elon has a bold idea, like building a tunnel, who does he bring it to?
    • For the tunnel – he first told it to a long time Space X engineer, Steve Davis
      • They just got a permit to dig a pit in the ground (a pit in the Space X parking lot)
      • “We just started off with a pit in our parking lot, a big pit” – It eventually turned into the tunnel

How does Elon have time to do everything he does?

  • “I have a million ideas, there’s no shortage”
  • “People don’t totally understand what I do with my time”
    • Elon’s Wikipedia page says he’s a “business magnate”
    • Elon estimates that 80% of his time is spent dealing with engineering and manufacturing
  • Note form Podcast Notes – I wish they expanded more on this. The myth remains. HOW DOES ELON DO ALL THAT HE DOES???

“WE’RE ALL BASICALLY CHIMPS”

  • “We’re one notch above a chimp” – Elon
  • “I might have some mutation or something like that”
ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE
  • “It’s less of a worry than it used to be, mainly due to taking more of a fatalistic attitude”
  • “It’s not necessarily bad, it’s just outside human control”
  • It will be very tempting to use AI as a weapon – and it will probably happen
  • “A company is essentially a cybernetic collective, of people and machines”
    • Google, plus all the humans that use it, are one giant cybernetic collective
    • We’re all effectively programming the AI – This is also true of Facebook, Instagram, Twitter etc.
  • Materialism
    • Perhaps it’s built into us – to always have the latest and greatest, Joe thinks – just like ants and their drive to build an ant hill
    • “We’re a weird thing, and I’ve often wondered if our ultimate goal is to give birth to some new thing (like AI), and that’s why we’re so obsessed with technology” – Joe
  • “The percentage of intelligence that is not human, is increasing”
    • Eventually humans will represent a very small percentage of all intelligence
  • The success of these online systems is a function of how much limbic resonance they’re able to achieve with people
    • The more limbic resonance, the more engagement
    • The reason Instagram is more enticing than Twitter – more limbic resonance
  • Elon was once a big proponent of slowing down AI development and regulating it more heavily this is talked about in the book Life 3.0
    • But Elon says, his efforts were futile
    • A good point – the auto industry once fought regulation (like seat belts) for decades
      • The same thing will happen with AI – regulation will be slow to develop
      • It has to happen quicker with AI – if we wait to regulate it, it’ll be too late
        • Otherwise, it’s “a countdown until we’re out of control”
        • “It could be terrible, it could be great. It’s not clear. But one thing’s for sure, we won’t control it.”
  • Chimps and AI
    • Check out the documentary Chimpanzee – Elon recommends it
    • “We, in a way, to the AI, might be like chimps” – Joe
    • But Elon has a good point – we don’t think about chimps, AI probably won’t even care about us
Neuralink
  • The scenario in which we merge with AI, is the one it probably turns out best for us
    • “If you can’t beat it, join it”
  • This is the premise of Elon’s company Neuralink
  • Elons says Neuralink will have something to announce in a few months, that’s “better than anyone thinks is possible”
  • Neuralink essentially wants to add a brain-computer interface to humans
  • “It will enable anyone who wants to have super human cognition, to have it”
  • Note from Podcast Notes – Check out this excellent blog post on Neuralink. It’s long but very much worth the read.
  • Elon draws a comparison – think about how much smarter you yourself are with a phone
    • “Your phone is already an extension of you. You’re already a cyborg, and most people don’t realize it.”
    • The problem though – the communication rate between you and your phone/computer is very slow (compared to what it could be) – This is the problem Neuralink is setting out to solve
social media
  • “People look like they have a much better life than they really do” – Elon
    • You’re prone to think – “There’s all these happy beautiful people, and I’m not that good looking, and I’m not happy, so I must suck”
    • “Those people you think are super happy, are not that happy”
    • “Some of the happiest seeming people, actually are some of the saddest people in reality”
  • “Comparison is the thief of joy” – Theodore Roosevelt
  • The Simulation and The Universe
    • The Universe is 13.8 billion years old
    • “If you assume any rate of improvement at all, gains will be indistinguishable from reality (or civilization will end), so we’re most likely in a simulation”
      • Elon thinks there are many simulations, like our own, running at the same time
      • He has an interesting analogy – think about the filming of an action movie, it takes forever
        • The actual action movie itself, is only 2-3 hours of entertainment
        • If we’re in a simulation, reality outside the simulation, is probably pretty boring – like the filming of the action movie
    • “Eventually the universe will end, it’s just a question of when, so it really is all about the journey”
      • “The universe as we know it will dissipate into a fine mist of cold nothingness eventually”
tesla
  • “Most people don’t know what it can do”
  • “I think a Tesla is the most fun thing you could possibly ever buy”
    • “It’s not a car, it’s a thing to maximize enjoyment”
  • Teslas are driving itself better everyday
    • If you currently fall asleep while it’s in self driving mode…
      • If no one touches the wheel after a while, the car will gradually slow down, the emergency lights will go on, and the car will honk to wake you up
  • Elon has a 1961 Series 1 E Type Jaguar and an old Ford Model T – which are his only 2 gasoline cars
  • In Ludicrous Mode, the Tesla (he doesn’t say which model) goes 0-60 mph in 2.2 seconds
    • The new next generation Roadster will be able to go 0-60 mph in 1.9 seconds
flying cars?

Electric Planes and the Energy crisis

  • Elon has a design ready – “I’ve thought about this quite a lot”
  • It would have electric vertical take off and landing
  • Note from Podcast Notes – Elon goes on a long rant about force balance, air density, etc. which I don’t understand (neither does Joe)
  • “An electric plane isn’t necessary right now. An electric car is. Solar energy, and stationary storage of energy – these are important. More important than electric planes.”
    • “We’re really playing a crazy game with the atmosphere and the oceans”
    • We’re taking vast amounts of carbon, from deep underground, and putting it in the atmosphere – “This is crazy and dangerous, we should not do this”
    • “The more carbon we take out of the ground, and add to the atmosphere, the more dangerous it is”
    • Elon thinks we’re okay right now, but the momentum toward sustainable energy is too slow
    • “The scientific consensus is overwhelming. I don’t know any serious scientist who doesn’t think we have a serious climate risk that we’re facing”
  • At one point, Elon wanted to put solar panels on Tesla cars to power them
more on tesla and electric cars
  • The bottle neck for electric cars..
    • Distance, battery capacity, and production scale up
    • The new Tesla Roadster will be able to travel 600 miles
    • The Model S, 100 kWh pack, has about a 330 mile range
  • The Tesla traction control system is very good
    • They do their testing on ice lakes in Sweeden, Norway, and New Zealand
  • Electric cars have really good traction control, because the reaction time is so fast (milliseconds)
    • For gasoline cars, there’s a lot of latency – it takes a while for the engine to react
  • The Model S, Model X, and Model 3 have the lowest probability of injury of any car ever tested by the US government

random

  • Elon advised Joe to order a Tesla Model S P100D – This is the car Elon drives
    • The Model S P100D with Ludicrous mode is advertised with a 0 to 60 mph acceleration in 2.5 seconds and a range of 335 miles.
  • Joe is wearing a Casio Pro Trek solar powered watch
    • Elon – “I don’t wear a watch, my phone tells the time”
  • Elon doesn’t have a phone case
  • Future bottlenecks for Elon’s companies:
    • “I wish politicians were better at science, that would help a lot”
      • “They’re pretty good at science in China”
  • What keeps Elon up at night?
    • “It’s quite hard to run companies, particularly a car company”
      • There’s only 2 car companies in history that haven’t gone bankrupt – Ford and Tesla
  • The Transition
    • There will at one point be a mix of many electric and gasoline cars on the road at the same time
      • Just like when horses were on the road with cars for a period of time

joe sparks the joint

  • It’s tobacco mixed with marijuana
  • Elon hits the joint
    • “I am not a regular smoker of weed”
  • Shortly after, Elon started getting texts from friends scolding him for this
  • “I don’t find weed is good for productivity”
    • “It’s like a cup of coffee in reverse”
  • Inside Elon’s mind
  • “I don’t think you’d necessarily want to be me. I don’t think people would like it that much.”
  • Elon says the worst part about “being him” – “It’s very hard to turn it off”
    • Joe recommends Elon try a float tank
    • “I don’t know what would happen if I got in a sensory deprivation tank – it’s concerning, but I’ll try it”
  • He’s tried meditation before, something mantra based
    • “It stills the mind, but I don’t find myself drawn to it frequently”
  • Elon explains his mind as a “never ending explosion of ideas”
  • “Just think of the various things you’ve been able to accomplish in a short amount of time, and you’re constantly doing this. You’re a very weird person.” – Joe
    • “I agree” – Elon
  • “My goal is to do useful things, maximize the probability that the future is good, and make the future exciting”
    • With Tesla – “We’re just trying to make something people love”
    • Elon often asks himself – “What are the set of things that I can do to make the future better?”

space exploration

  • “There needs to be things that make you look forward to waking up in the morning. A future where we are a space bearing civilization, that is very exciting. That’s a future I want.”
  • Elon has his sites set on colonizing Mars, our moon, the moons of Jupiter, the asteroid belt, Saturn, and even Pluto
  • Note from Podcast Notes – They don’t get into SpaceX much at all besides this
love is the answer
    • “Give people the benefit of the doubt – Assume they’re good until proven otherwise. Most people are pretty good people.”
      • “This may sound corny, but love is the answer”
      • “It wouldn’t hurt to have more love in the world”
      • Spend more time with your friends and less time on social media
    • “Be nicer to each other. Give more credit to others. It’s easy to demonize people, but you’re usually wrong about it. People are nicer than you think.”


Elon Musk giving an interview at the Joe Rogan show  /  image by Joe Rogan Experience  /  source YouTube.com

Elon Reeve Musk is a business magnate and investor. He holds South African, Canadian, and U.S. citizenship and is the founder, CEO, and lead designer of SpaceX; co-founder, CEO, and product architect of Tesla, Inc.; co-founder and CEO of Neuralink; and co-founder of PayPal.

Joe Rogan interviewing Elon Musk  /  image by Joe Rogan Experience  /  source YouTube.com

Joe Rogan interviewing Elon Musk at the Joe Rogan Experience

Elon Musk giving an interview at the Joe Rogan show  /  image by Joe Rogan Experience  /  source YouTube.com

Elon Reeve Musk is a business magnate and investor. He holds South African, Canadian, and U.S. citizenship and is the founder, CEO, and lead designer of SpaceX; co-founder, CEO, and product architect of Tesla, Inc.; co-founder and CEO of Neuralink; and co-founder of PayPal.

Joe Rogan interviewing Elon Musk  /  image by Joe Rogan Experience  /  source YouTube.com

Joe Rogan interviewing Elon Musk at the Joe Rogan Experience

Elon Musk having fun with a Samurai sword  /  image by Joe Rogan Experience  /  source YouTube.com

Elon Reeve Musk is a business magnate and investor. He holds South African, Canadian, and U.S. citizenship and is the founder, CEO, and lead designer of SpaceX; co-founder, CEO, and product architect of Tesla, Inc.; co-founder and CEO of Neuralink; and co-founder of PayPal.

Joe Rogan interviewing Elon Musk  /  image by Joe Rogan Experience  /  source YouTube.com

Joe Rogan interviewing Elon Musk at the Joe Rogan Experience

Joe Rogan smokes a mix of Marihuana and Tabacco  /  image by Joe Rogan Experience  /  source YouTube.com

Joe Rogan interviewing Elon Musk at the Joe Rogan Experience

Elon Musk smokes a mix of Marihuana and Tabacco  /  image by Joe Rogan Experience  /  source YouTube.com

Elon Reeve Musk is a business magnate and investor. He holds South African, Canadian, and U.S. citizenship and is the founder, CEO, and lead designer of SpaceX; co-founder, CEO, and product architect of Tesla, Inc.; co-founder and CEO of Neuralink; and co-founder of PayPal.

Elon Musk giving an interview at the Joe Rogan show  /  image by Joe Rogan Experience  /  source YouTube.com

Elon Reeve Musk is a business magnate and investor. He holds South African, Canadian, and U.S. citizenship and is the founder, CEO, and lead designer of SpaceX; co-founder, CEO, and product architect of Tesla, Inc.; co-founder and CEO of Neuralink; and co-founder of PayPal.

Elon Musk drinking Whisky  /  image by Joe Rogan Experience  /  source YouTube.com

Elon Reeve Musk is a business magnate and investor. He holds South African, Canadian, and U.S. citizenship and is the founder, CEO, and lead designer of SpaceX; co-founder, CEO, and product architect of Tesla, Inc.; co-founder and CEO of Neuralink; and co-founder of PayPal.

Source and references

  1. JoeRogan.net - #1169. Elon Musk is a business magnet, investor and engineer
  2. BoringCompany.com - The Boring Company
  3. YouTube.com by The Boring Company - The Boring Company | Tunnels
  4. BoringCompany.com - The Boring Company hat
  5. BoringCompany.com - The Boring Company not a flamethrower
  6. BusinessInsider.com by Danielle Muoio - We just got our first glimpse or Elon Musk's new tunnel company
  7. Neuralink.com - Neuralink
  8. WaitButWhy.com by Tim Urban - Search Neuralink and the Brain’s Magical Future
  9. Tesla.com - Model X
  10. YouTube.com by Gangadhar Chandu - Cool New Feature of the Tesla Model X
  11. Engadget.com by Stefanie Fogel - Tesla Model S breaks acceleration record with Ludicrous Mode
  12. Tesla.com - Roadster
  13. Tesla.com - Model S
  14. Tesla.com - Model 3
  15. JoeRogan.com - Joe Rogan
  16. Wikipedia.org - The Joe Rogan Experience
  17. Wikipedia.org - Elon Musk

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